I’m not easily shocked by things I read on the affair discussion forums, because lets face it, when it comes to people having relationships and sex behind their spouses back, I see some pretty questionable behavior on a regular basis. From people fucking their affair partners in their freshly made marital bed, to a woman whose affair partner wants her to dress up in his wife’s clothes while they do the horizontal waltz, I have pretty much seen it all.
But then along came Karen. (not her real name)
Karen introduced herself to the forum in an unabashed manner full of confidence and spunk. As I read her introductory post, I was taken back and actually had to go back and read it twice to make sure what I was reading was actually what I was reading.
You see, some people have affairs because they don’t feel wanted or desired in their primary relationship and seek to get the intimacy that is missing at home from someone else. Some people have affairs because they are simply horny as all get out and can’t help themselves from getting in between the sheets with someone other than their spouse. Some do it for the thrill and excitement of doing something naughty.
Karen though…. She was different.
Oh, sure, she wanted sex. She loves the thrill of having a clandestine affair and Karen made it perfectly clear that she was a huge fan of recreational sex She loves to bed men. In her words, “There are way too many yummy men out there to not have a taste of them all.”
But Karen also had affairs because she wanted her children to have good genetics which she believed that her husband could not provide.
Karen’s two young children were fathered by two different men neither of whom is her husband, and hubby is none the wiser.
By all accounts, Karen’s husband is very successful financially and Karen is adamant that she loves him. “I love my husband.” She says. ” He has given me a comfortable and stable life. Because of his great job and his ability to provide me and my children with resources, I will never divorce him.” Karen is unapologetic about her lifestyle choice and in fact defends it with zeal saying that really this is just nature at its core. Karen is of the opinion that she is in touch with her evolutionary truth and that unlike other women, she has acknowledged her subconscious desires to acquire the most resources and best genes as possible, and is using it to her advantage as she explains below:
Nature wants us to mate with strong, virile men who can beat the shit out of the other men, have strong immune systems and produce the highest quality DNA sperm. But these types of testosterone driven men rarely, if ever, make good long-term partners.
My husband is a sensitive caring man with soft features. The men who fathered my children are much better looking, more masculine, and healthier than my hubby. If you were to ever meet my husband, you would agree that he is not the ideal man to mate with, but he would be a good dad.
While I found this to be provocative, I also found it to be terribly interesting as I have often wondered what role evolutionary psychology and genetics played in relationships that were highlighted by infidelity. You know the thinking…. Is there something in our DNA that makes us want to fuck that hot secretary or to bed down the new guy at the gym even though we have a spouse waiting at home? Are we hard wired to cheat on our spouses? Is monogamy even natural? Hell, even foot fetishes can be traced to evolution, as men are evolutionarily wired to look for small feet, which are a sign of high estrogen production, which itself is a sign of fertility, which explains why I have an uncontrollable urge to fuck every single women that is sporting anything under a size 10 pair of Uggs. But I digress.
When I asked Karen her thoughts on whether she thought we as a species were evolutionary predisposed to cheat she was quick to say that:
I certainly think it is unnatural to be monogamous. There is a lot of evidence that cheating is an important part of human evolution. Men try to spread their seed beyond their relationships. Women such as myself try to get the best genes for their children. I think society is in a losing battle with trying to change the way we are wired. Everyone should accept that monogamy is unnatural. As women, our goal in life is to secure the most resources and best possible genes for our children. Sometimes you can’t get both from one man.
Karen is obviously a woman that knows exactly want she wants and is not in the least bit afraid to go out and get it. I asked Karen if she wouldn’t mind if I picked her brain and she graciously accepted my request for an interview, the result of which is below:
Your 2 children were fathered by 2 different lovers. Are you worried that you husband might become suspicious that he isn’t in fact the father? Looks, mannerisms, personality traits that aren’t shared by the children, especially as they grow older?
Obviously this is one of my biggest concerns. During my research into mixed mating strategies many years ago, I was looking for how often the true paternity was exposed. Obviously in the old, old, old days it was virtually never discovered unless there were racial differences. Nowadays, if my children were to have a serious health problem that required blooding testing or something like that it could come up. But those odds are low because the fathers of my children are healthy, strong, and virile men. It is my belief that no matter what, people are going to tell us that my children have their father’s eyes or chin or something. People see what they want to see and naturally ignore any evidence that goes against their pre-conceived notions. I think my husband will do the same thing.
You said the following:
“Nature wants us to mate with strong, virile men who can beat the shit out of the other men, have strong immune systems and produce the highest quality DNA sperm. But these types of testosterone driven men rarely, if ever, make good long-term partners”.
So are you ok with the fact that your children might not be well suited to being good long-term partners?
That is an impossible question to answer. My children are much more likely to inherit their fathers looks rather than their personalities. Who’s to say they won’t be good long-term partners? The important thing is there is a good chance they will be attractive. That gives them the opportunity to produce lots of grandchildren for me. That is the ultimate goal, leaving behind as many descendants as possible.
You are unapologetic about the fact you had sex outside of your marriage in order to ensure that you children had the best genes possible. How would you feel if one of your own children gave you a grandchild, conceived under the same type of situation that you chose?
Well, if that were to happen I would obviously not know about it. If my son were to impregnate someone’s wife without the husband ever finding out, then that would give me a bonus grandbaby! Obviously if my daughter were to do the same thing I am doing then I wouldn’t be in a position to criticize her. As women, our goal in life is to secure the most resources and best possible genes for our children. Sometimes you can’t get both from one man.
When did you first become conscious of your desire to have certain aspects of your life fulfilled by different partners? Have you cheated in all of your relationships? Was there something in an early relationship that was an “awakening” for you?
I guess I am what you would call a “professional adulteress.” I have cheated in every relationship I have ever been in, including my marriage. I am an infidelity expert and I am very discreet. I have read a lot of material on infidelity. Not once has my husband shown suspicion about my affairs nor does he know that my lovers fathered the two children. I don’t know if it was an early relationship that made me the way I am. I think I am just not a monogamous person. There are way too many yummy men out there to not have a taste of them all.
Other than the fact that your husband is a good provider, are there other qualities about him that keep you with him? Do you enjoy sex with him? If so, how often?
Yes, he is one of the nicest and most emotionally available men I’ve ever known. If he were a woman he would be my best friend. He is a great husband. I would venture to say that most women would never even think about cheating on him. I do not expect him to be a stallion in bed like my lovers, but he is ok. When we have sex (these days about once a month or so), I don’t mind it.
Do you think that your husband has been faithful to you? If you found out that he had in fact had sex outside of the marriage, would you be angry or disappointed, or would you be able to accept it because men are hard wired to spread their seed far and wide?
I seriously doubt my husband has ever been unfaithful. It is not the way he is. He was a virgin until we started dating. He was 36 when I took his virginity. He has never been the player type and I can tell he embraces being married and “off-limits.”
Ever thought about broaching the subject of an open relationship with your husband?
An open relationship with my husband? No way. One of the main reasons I married him is his ability to provide me and my children with the resources we need. I don’t want to share my husband’s time and money with other women. That is out of the question.
It’s impossible to know how prevalent situations like this are as people won’t freely admit to it, but I get the impression that you think it happens a lot more than we might think. Thoughts?
Of course there are lots of other women in the same situation as myself. If you believe the paternity statistics (I do), approximately 10% of children are raised by non-biological dads. How many of those 10% besides myself admit to it? Probably not very many. Obviously I admit to it, but anonymously. We will never admit to it on-record because of the ramifications we would face.
Do you ever feel guilty? If so, how do you manage those feelings?
For me, I’ve never felt any guilt about any of the affairs I’ve had. I’ve often said that I’m like a man-I can fuck men the way men fuck women, without any guilt-and get right back into bed with my husband at night without the slightest tinge of remorse.
Would you say that you are gaining something emotionally from your affairs or are you in it purely for the sex?
Sex, that’s it. My husband does a great job with meeting my emotional needs. I have never had an emotional affair because I have never needed to. The cause for all my affairs has been pure lust.
What precautions do you take to ensure you maintain secrecy?
I take every precaution. I even do things I don’t have to do. But as far as the simple things, I’ve always only communicated with my lovers via email. And I would only access it at work. The phone thing never comes into the equation, which makes things so much easier. No single lovers! I’ve always looked for married or taken men, excluding one-night stands. Never change your attitude or appearance at home. When I am with my lovers, I am a sexual being. When I am at home, I am Mother. Only my best friend knows about my affairs. She is my alibi and also a good reference point to hold me in check if she notices that I’m getting too involved with my lover or I’m starting to act careless. I also make sure she knows when all my dates are happening so she doesn’t accidentally call my home while I’m out.
What’s the best and worst thing about being in an affair?
The best thing about being in an affair is the great sex. You see, the minute you get married and have a child, you become Mother. My lovers never knew me as Mother. To them, I was a sexual being. I’ve always told myself the worst thing about being in an affair is getting caught. Since this has never happened to me, I haven’t experienced the worst thing about having an affair. I hope I never do.
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So what do you all think? Is this a case of someone that is in touch with there inner evolutionary truth and she is just acting up on that? Have you ever wondered about being impregnated by your affair partner? Do you think that you might have subconsciously thought about it?
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Interesting and not uncommon. I first learned about this sort of thing in evolutionary psychology.
It’s funny how all of a sudden people are experts in evolutionary psychology and the human species. Monogamy IS IN our nature. It’s what made us evolve past the primal stage. It’s how we developed co-habitation, learned to raise and nurse our young. There are many other animals that are monogamous as well.
There is something to be said for karma. This woman wants the best of both worlds and we all know that’s not possible. It’s obvious she is nothing more than a parasite, one who consumes but never contributes. I’m guessing her husband must be a spineless neutered male typical of the post 1970′s. I bet he snuggles up with her at night to watch Greys Anatomy never knowing she’d been screwed six ways from sunday just a few hours before.
The fact she says she chose her lovers for her genes because they will be able to give her children a better life, means she has no clue. Her husband, with his limited gene pool, was able to become successful and rich enough to provide for such a wanton whore.
But who am I to judge? It’s also unfathomable that the husband doesn’t suspect a thing. I bet he already knows, but will meekly say nothing for fear of her leaving him. Any woman who would disrespect not only herself, but her husband and kids as such and cause them to believe that man is their father or those are his kids, is doomed.
Her story or situation is not that far out the norm that i have been noticing, being back into the social scene in my late 20′s.My early twenties tho, most women i met whr single and cheating was never an issue. As I gotten older i have realized that most women i meet have husbands or long term boyfriends with kids. They love thr partners very much have established, house, cars, jobs, mutual friends, etc….
This dont explain why i have many of these women are in my phone. I’ll tell u y Im free, established, good looking, killer smile, and hit the gym often, and im not even the alpha male of a group, Its all about natural genetic sex appeal. While its sounds like im boasting im leading to a point.
My father has over 11 know children, only two have the same mother. He is in his 50′s and still can pick up a twenty year old with no issue at all. This is the otherside of the “Karen” story. My mother is attractive but thru out all the years growing up and after her two kids (different dads) she nvr dated a great looking man. She was with them for other reasons.
This was a little scattered but u get the idea.
This was really an eye-opening article. One part of me admires this women for being so honest and another part of me wants to decapitate her. Honestly, I believe that there are many women out there just like Karen.
The way I look at it: Instead of getting angry about stuff like this, I’ll use this knowledge to my advantage. Never take paternity for granted. I think a lot of men (including Karen’s husband) certainly do.
Guys, if you have children, just get the paternity test. It is such an easy way to protect yourself.
Well, I can totally understand and am in empathy with this particular writer. In fact, if you get through this rather lengthy tome, Matt Ridley’s “The Red Queen” explains it why, in evolutionary biology terms.
She has a point that she’s hard-wired to behave like that, but she’s also soft-wired not to. “If you have to lie about it, you shouldn’t be doing it” (omission counts as a lie) is a mainstay of human morality for a reason — because if every human being behaved the way that this woman does, society would simply not be able to stay together.
What we have here is a severe case of betrayal of trust. Trust (and its fulfillment) is what society is based on. You could just as easily steal from shops and report that “it’s in my nature to want as many resources as I can get without having to give any value away”. You could just as easily murder your rivals and say “it’s in our nature to want to eliminate those who get in the way of our goals”. But the fact is that if you didn’t lie about those things and get away with it, you’d be subject to punishment. The same thing is the case here. If this woman was ever found out, she could be divorced and sued for everything. It’s no small crime to fool a man into raising children that aren’t his. That 10% of the population does it is no excuse — I’m sure 10% of the population steals too. I know I have!
This is an issue of basic morality, and mrs. “infidelity expert” may have cooked up a very clever justification for her selfish behavior, but it is very simply exactly as it seems: wrong to the core.
I can see this woman’s perspective in that she acquires the right resources from the right men to satisfy her needs. It’s a very pragmatic take on life. My problem with that is that the husband isn’t given a choice in this matter. We don’t hear a great deal of what the woman does for her husband. The monthly customary hump isn’t going to be all that special.
For my money, the husband would be better off with a high-priced call girl once month. It’s not cheap, it’s cheaper than being played for a fool.
What a despicable human being. Why get married? Why promise to be faithful knowing full well that you will break that promise? If you want to sleep around, fine, but why lie about it? She most DEFINITELY does not love her husband, clearly this woman has never known love, she follows her so called evolutionary callings. She is an animal pure and simple. In my opinion she has eviscerated her husbands life, and to me that is a crime.
BTW what is this good genetics bullshit? Its not about genetics, she has no knowledge of these mens genetics, all she knows is they look good. Call it what it is, she is a simple minded, shallow whore whose sole method for evaluating a human being is based on their looks. What a disgrace to the species.
She is slightly mistaken about personality twin studies have shown that heredity is more important than upbringing (except in cases of neglect).
From a genetic standpoint her positions is however perfectly rational.
@Karen: I’ll actually go a step further than that, I’ll give you some (amoral?) advice. If you want to do really great genetically (ie lots of biological grand kids), try to influence your sons to not settle down just because a girl had his child, if they do that however they should have their children’s paternity tested regardless. An added bonus will be that you will be seen as being extremley dissaproving of “those” women, reducing your chances of getting caught. ;)
I would under other circumstances also recommend instructing your daughters to follow your own strategy, but this might come of as suspicious to them. But this would carry the very real risk of being outed to their father.
Also I assume you are aiming for your children to do as well as possible economically? Why else bother with hubby… welfare mom’s beat you by 3 children on average. heh. So to help you with that, I hope your “sperm donors” had good SAT scores. IQ is between 0.6 and 0.9 heritable and is a very important predictor of future income, educational achievement, health and even (you won’t believe this) looks (studies have confirmed more beautiful people also have higher IQs on average).
@everyone:
Its the correct thing to do if one wishes to pursue enlightened self interest. But If an entire society of women behaved in this way, it would only take a few generations for them to quite markedly reduce the suitability of the average male to provide for children. And perhaps even pay taxes that help fatherless children.
More abstractly situations where doing something that is good for you to do, but bad if (too many) others do it, is called a tragedy of the commons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons).
Successful societies find ways to enforce rules that prevent these kinds of situations.
So let me get this straight: she loves, married, and plans to stay with an intelligent, nice, good father, but she doesn’t want her children to have those same qualities? It’s like she took a step forward for evolution – moving the human race toward a kinder, more peaceful future, and then stepped back for no reason. There were good reasons testosterone fueled alpha males were more reproductively successful thousands of years ago. Those reasons don’t exist today. If she wants her progeny to be arrogant, selfish, and violent, then okay. But hopefully she understands that that’s what she’s doing.
Only a woman could be that stupid: http://goo.gl/f4pXo
This is why marriage is a very bad idea. Women only view their “husbands” as chattels in a very real sense and view us guy’s as a little more then animals.
Maybe the extreme female brain is inherently sociopathic, as the extreme male brain is represented by aspies.
Because if you look at the sociopathic qualities of male sociopaths they line up perfectly with the average traits normal women tend to have. So maybe we just have to accept the fact that the vast majority of women are sociopaths and do not have a conscience. Or if they do have a conscience it is greatly diluted/weak.
Makes me give another thought to the concept that most women don’t have soul’s(originally debated by St Augustine and the early Church). Because even though that evil manipulating harpy is one of the few to speak it; given the epidemic level of paternity fraud in marriages most married women are indeed doing it.
P.S the 10% quote about paternity fraud is wrong. According I think the Red Cross the rate is around 40% for married couples. Probably higher for unmarried couples.
You are being conned.
I bet ‘Karen’ is a man who’s been reading too much cheesy erotica. If she really was a ‘professional adulteress’ she wouldn’t be stupid enough to go around flaunting it all over the Internet.
P.S. Please link a source, Kris W., because I think you pulled that figure out of your ass.
I thought paternity fraud was only 25-30%. It’s still amazing how these women aren’t considered deadbeat parents.
This is the most disgusting part:
“Q. Ever thought about broaching the subject of an open relationship with your husband?
A. An open relationship with my husband? No way. One of the main reasons I married him is his ability to provide me and my children with the resources we need. I don’t want to share my husband’s time and money with other women. That is out of the question.”
It’s like she considers her husband to be a slave. His time and money belong to her, but she gives no loyalty to him? If she has affairs, why can’t he try to have one? She doesn’t lose anything even if he makes another woman pregnant. He, on the other hand, will see his genes die completely under this arrangement.
Another book by Matt Ridley: Genoma, what makes us humans? Explains how the size in the primates males testicles is detremined by the number of sexual partner of the females. Gorillas, where only one alpha male impregnates all the females, have tiny testicles in relation to their body mass. Chimpanzees, at the opposite end of the spectrum, have the biggest of them all since in a completely polygamic society and its sperm has to “compete” with other males’ to impregnate females.
Guess what does evolution suggests about human’s reproductive habits based on the size of mens’ balls? Almost exactly halfway between chimps and gorillas, which suggests a 50% incidence of female “infidelity”. Of course this means this has happened since ever in the human’s history, not only in the last generations.
Actually, when paternity tests are done in the US, around 30% show the man is not the father. This does not represent all marriages, only those where there is sufficient suspicion to justify the test.
Figures are as low as 4% for USSA overall, though I find that suspiciously low, and it is based on mathematical projections by the DNA people. In more primitive societies, the 30% figure is correct.
I had my y-marker DNA test done. It shows my ancestors probably came from Ireland, okay. But, of the hundreds of other people who closely match, only a very few even have the same surname.
In my case, all 3 of my bio-children are flat-footed, as I am. I have not bothered to have them tested as a result of this fact.
That Karen sounds like a human parasite of the worst kind.
karen thinks that cuckolding is acceptable, but i wonder if she thinks the evolved methods that men use to counter cuckolding are equally acceptable, for example mate guarding and physical abuse.
if women should be allowed to exercise their evolved strategies then why not men.
let’s all embrace the naturalistic fallacy.
I’m trying to imagine this situation backwards. He cheats on his wife with women who have huge boobs. He wants his children to be genetically superior, and genetic superiority is directly related to physical attraction. He’s physically attracted to big knockers so big chested women will have superior offspring. Imagine how much milk they can produce! That increased milk production means those babies will be fat and better able to survive a famine. Just think, the babies he makes with those broads will be less likely to die of starvation due to insufficient breast milk. What a huge genetic advantage that is in the modern world, that guy is undoubtedly on the right track.
She putrid. The fact that she’s female doesn’t matter – as a human being she’s garbage. Naturally, her cognitive dissonance buffers will justify her behaviour.
As for the cuckoldry rates, it varies depending on socioecomonic status, from 1% among the upper classes to 30% along the lower classes. Overall, in America, the rate is estimated at 3.7%. That’s a million men in America duped into raising a child who’s the product of another man’s cumshot blasted between his whore wife’s spread legs.
Husband is a slave.
If I found out I she did this to me I would >>>>>>Edited by Admin to remove violent comment<<<<
I just love all these women’s and feminist blogs. They really let women reveal what they are truly like. Every time I read a piece like the above, I am glad I decided never to let a woman into my life.
Keep posting and scaring of the guys, Ladies. You are doing all the men in the world a favour.
I am shaking with indignation, anger and fear.
If anyone reads this and then criticizes men for not “manning up”…
Welcome back to the baboon pack. Check your justice at the door.
Reading that article makes me very angry, this will never happen to me as i’m way to paranoid to ever really trust anyone but if it does happen to someone and the man kills his wife then i’m OK with that, yeah your read it wright, this is so offensive that i actually would understand he would >>>>>>Edited by Admin to remove violent comment<<<<<<<<
Noone has asked the really good question. It is this after the preliminary words. What if your descendants especially your sons run across women who behave like you and they find men who are more “ALPHA” than your boys, and let your “BETA” boys raise offspring which are not biologically theirs or worse yours, what would you do? In short what would you do, think and feel about your descendants, your sons, being cuckolded by lesser, equal or greater men?
Hm. I’m with Steve: “Karen” is suspicious.
If “Karen” and this interview were on the level, I would have liked to have seen Karen asked directly about propagating her husband’s genes and her duty/responsibility to pass on his genes via HIS biological children, if only as a fair trade for his support of her cuckold bastards.
I am an anthropologist and study human evolution and I’m sorry to say your reasoning is flawed. The word “fittest” in “survival of the fittest” does NOT in any way mean physically fit. It means “most capable of surviving”. Unless you live in a third world country at the moment, choosing brawn over brains means you chose to make your children *less* fit for success in the world.
You say your husband is wealthy. How did he get that way? Whatever he’s got, business sense, intellect, etc, THAT is what is going to be valuable in the next few centuries. Instead of being the queen mother to a dynasty of mega wealthy bankers and CEOs in your old age who WILL survive, you’ll have a few ex-convicts and highschool dropouts and the like as your genetic legacy, all of whom will eventually find ways to kill themselves younger and younger until they fizzle out…
If you honestly want to have the “best” genes in your family, add your husband’s to the mix, and then see which of your children become successful and which ones fail.
This is the souless, Darwinian hellscape we’ve made for ourselves right here. And we call it progress.
Truly, we deserve to fall as a society
surivival of the fittest doesnt mean what you think it does, you feces slinging baboons.
I don’t even care whether its a hoax. How else could this reality (whether its 10 or 40%) be articulated? When would a woman be honest about this? To ask the question is to reveal its absurdity.
Beyond the hate, this article makes me glad I had enough sense to stop being a “nice guy” and see women for what they really are.
I will never marry, and if any woman did this to me I would>>>>>>>>>Edited violent comment. Admin<<<<<
Thanks for all of your responses. i know that this is a controversial topic that can bring about strong emotions but any comments that suggest that violence is the way to solve this issue will be removed.
Lets try and keep it is as civil as we can thanks.
Honey I Don’t Understand Why You Think You Are The Alpha Female That All These Alpha Males Should Flock To! Your Personality Flaws Are Glaring And Since We Tend To Attract And Gravitate Towards Like Minded People I Would Venture To Say These So Called Males Have The Same Flaws As Well . So Therefore These Are Things That Are Being Passed To Your Offspring From Both Parents! Your Narcissim Is Off The Charts Babe! I Would Say You Are Merely Flaunting Your Affairs To Your Husband Via Other Mens Children And Your Marriage And Your Children Are Some Sort Of Weird Trophy To You.
@Harold
“Monogamy IS IN our nature.”
Maybe for short bursts of time, but I think if humans were truly monogamous, they’d not need 2 dozen trials and errors with various partners and then enter a marriage just to divorce 7 years later. You see, if long term monogamy was in our nature, it should be, by and large, effortless and it’s been shown time and time again to not be effortless, in fact it’s a challenge. That speaks volumes on how monogamous humans really are.
“This woman wants the best of both worlds and we all know that’s not possible.”
Really? Because apparently it’s been possible and been a reality for quite some time at least for her.
“I’m guessing her husband must be a spineless neutered male typical of the post 1970?s.”
That or she’s really that good. I never understood why people jump to conclusions about the husband, she might really be that covert.
“Her husband, with his limited gene pool, was able to become successful and rich enough to provide for such a wanton whore.”
Yet his genes weren’t passed on. To us, yes, he’s successful, yes he has a great job. To evolution, he’s merely a genetic mishmash that didn’t work out.
Evolution doesn’t care how much money you make, only if you reproduce and the offspring live on to reproduce again.
“Any woman who would disrespect not only herself, but her husband and kids as such and cause them to believe that man is their father or those are his kids, is doomed.”
Idle threats. What are you going to do about it? Find out who “Karen” is and the pull the plug?
The sad part is I agree that what Karen is doing is deplorable. I think paternity tests should be mandatory because it really isn’t fair that the husband get shouldered with the burden of providing for kids that aren’t his.
Sure, it might be in our biology to be unfaithful and to look for the best possible partners, but that’s just not a good excuse to do it.
By all means, have open relationships in which every partner is knows what’s going on. Lying and deception to get what you want is wrong as you hurt the people involved, and especially if it’s your husband, you hurt one of the people that’s supposed to be most dear to you.
Of course the female in question is probably very average intellectually and physically.
If she was physically up to parr, with good genes herself, theres no reason she couldn’t have her own wealthy, physically fit alpha male, instead of basically being used as a cum dumpster by carefree players. She must crave alpha genes so badly because her own are so dysfunctional.
If she was intellectually up to parr she wouldn’t need a financial and emotional slave as she would be educated and earning her own money, as well as mentally strong enough to make it on her own. So i feel nearly as much pity for this woman as the man himself as she has conceded that she is so pathetic that she has to live a lie to survive.
I find it a little odd how frank and scientific she is about the whole thing however, i don’t expect much more from a woman than “it felt good” or some excuse as to how her husband pushed her into it with such and such a behaviour. Such frankness it seems almost male in origin.
Also her attempts at rationalization and justification don’t hold weight. Sure cuckolding may be natural, but then so is the act of >>>>>>Edited by Admin to remove violent comment<<<<<<<
However in a Civilized society we need checks on these things.
I think this Karen is a man too
bitches you crazy
shes only honest if she isn’t also lying about the true reason why she cheated on him. That can go soooo many ways. I doubt she cheated on him with really dweeby but very smart (VERY SMART) guys so she can pass on the genius genes to her kids. In fact, Go marry someone who you think has good genetics to begin with, and why doesn’t she trust her genetic selector she was gifted/cursed with, and marry someone who she is attracted to?
The problem with this situation isn’t really the fact that she’s doing it. It’s the fact that in many states, this woman’s behavior is codified into LAW. She can do this, hide it, and then even if her husband finds out and tries to take some reasonable action, she can use the courts to force him to CONTINUE supporting her.
The whole crux of the problem isn’t her “deplorable morality” or whatever you want to call it. It’s the idea that our society is far more ok with women doing this sort of thing to men, than ANYONE doing such things to women — take a look at how much is awarded to women for their emotional grief when hospitals mix up babies for a short period of time.
It’s not like she is unique in this respect. As mentioned, the goal for a woman is to get the seed of the greatest men she could find while marrying the greatest provider she could get. Every other woman does the exact same thing for the exact same reason, they just don’t know it.
What a selfish woman.
I’m pleased and relieved by the participants comments on this topic. The World is not as fucked up as I once thought! 43 intelligent posts and one screwed up woman/wife/mother. I’ll take it!
What’s the point of consciously propagating one’s genes? This is a question separate from having your own children — living beings you presumably love. Plotting an evolutionary legacy is not something we’re designed to do. We fuck on impulse — impulses determined by good ol’ mother nature (e.g., the hypergamy of females). On an even basic level, people do not typically fuck in order to have kids. Nature has ensured that we crave fucking, which results in children.
This woman is a narcissist. The allegedly better “genetic stock” of these kids is no different than an over-priced handbag or automobile. This could also have potentially devastating effects on her children if they discover they’re unrelated and their biological fathers are unknown.
I wonder if women smile devilishly as the cuckold recounts his family’s medical history to a doctor.
So she’s a psychopath, who the hell do you think would use your services? Decent people?
I agree with Davey, almost reeks of Troll and the narration by ‘Karen’ appears to be of male origin. Regardless, the respondents attack her position with powerful arguments, many that are quite strong and compelling by both male and female perspectives. Evolutionary psychology is theoretical and somewhat pseudo-science. It can appear convincing, and can appeal to the intellect, however, the majority of the respondents were able to criticize the flaws in the theory having little or no knowledge of the subject. Bravo!
SHAME !!!
I wouldnt be amazed to learn this woman would differentiate in OWN KIDS too, and throw away one’s she doesnt find fit up to her gene standards.
I already feel sorry for her her husband and unborn children !
Its a pitty such creatures exists in our society !! and to make it worst, Radical Feminists encourage and take pride in such shameful acts !
SHAME!!!
Let me see if I have this straight. This women (who I have doubts is actually female), married a guy for his money. She then proceeded to have children by two other fathers. But will stay married to her chump because of his money. ….. How is this not a mental problem? Ignoring the fact that she took vows KNOWING that she was going to break them, she’s just using the chump for money and security. Viewing and using other people likes tools for your personal gain does not seem like the act of a well adjusted person.
If I was married to that woman, and I found out about what she did to me, may G-d have mercy on her because I wouldn’t.
One thing that many people don’t seem to understand about men like Karen’s husband is that the most decent men are also the one’s to take betrayal the hardest. They don’t shrug it off. They tend to get very angry about it and that anger tends to simmer for a long time. I will fight almost anybody, and have, but the only times I’ve ever regretted getting in somebody’s way has always been the “decent” men.
If she were smart, she’d quit while she was ahead.